James suicide girl - 40,000 homicides: Retracing 63 years of murder in Chicago

In the first crossover, Jigsaw allies with the and they both fight the Punisher and.

After Carnage removes Joker's chip, the two psychotics briefly enter into an alliance before their differing methods of murder cause a clash; Carnage favours numbers and actually sees the death of his victims close-up in his murder sprees while the Joker prefers the artistry of his usual traps and tricks, Carnage dismissing the Joker's methods as slow while Joker sees Carnage as an amateur as anyone can just go out and kill people.